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Jacques, o Fatalista by Denis Diderot

tomleetang's review against another edition

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4.0

"What sort of community did they find inside?
Mixed.
What did people say?
Some truth and lots of lies.
Were there any clever people?
Where are there not clever people? There were also a lot of people asking impertinent, tom-fool questions whom everybody avoided like the plague."

All books dialogue with a reader to some extent; this one just does so more directly, like an acquaintance who insists on clasping you to him while chastising your assumptions about the story he is telling you. It reads like an oral narrative put to paper, with a narrator who keeps getting distracted or interrupted by his hypothetical listener.

This book may not be for everyone, but I do have a soft spot for playful novellas that toy with storytelling conventions (though at the same time knowing that writers were engaging in postmodern-like games even before modernism does make one despair slightly of coming up with anything truly innovative).

Diderot's metafictional tale takes the framing narrative common to works like The Canterbury Tales and the Decameron and teases the reader by creating stories within stories - many of them bawdy episodes involving cuckolding and seduction. In doing this he critiques the literary conventions of his age, but his observations are just as applicable today.

As its title suggests, Jacques the Fatalist is also about fatalism and free will. Are we merely at the whim of some plan 'written on high'? The titular Jacques wavers between accepting fate with equanimity and trying to actively mould his future - on some occasions he claims to be philosophical about following the whims of fortune, but he still can't help trying to influence it on others. My interpretation of this was that, regardless of whether there is a god or some other mechanism of the universe driving our actions, humans can't help but try and influence their fate - and whether or not this has any effect is immaterial, because it means we continue to engage in the act of living with vigour rather than passivity.

I'll finish with a line which surely should be a contestant for most amusing sex euphemism:

"One of the teachers, Premontval, fell in love with his pupil, and in the midst of propositions concerning solid bodies inscribed within a sphere, a child was born."

lessidisa's review against another edition

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2.5

C'est un maître et son valet qui cheminent n'importe où et se racontent des histoires ; en cela c'est une redite par rapport à Don Quichotte, que j'ai déjà lu cette année.


Vous êtes quelques fois si profond et si sublime, que je ne nous entends pas.

Je m'acheminais cahin-caha ; et puisqu'il faut vous l'avouer, regrettant mes deux gros écus, qui n'en étaient pas moins donnés, et gâtant par mon regret l’œuvre que j'avais faite.

Tant que je vivrai tu seras mon supplice.

pigglemouse's review against another edition

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4.0

A very interesting writing style. Thoroughly amusing and enojable.

nnikif's review against another edition

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3.0

"Племянник Рамо" — текст действительно невероятно современный; от книги того же автора, да еще и написанной под влиянием "Тристама Шенди", да еще и построенной на разговорах автора с читателем, ждешь, что это будет как минимум Роб-Грийе 18-го века. Но нет, это вполне стандартный набор анекдотов в духе "Декамерона" про рогоносцев и обманутых женщин, бесконечное прерывание этих анекдотов и их чередование — просто framing device, не принципиально отличный от таких же devices в "Тысяче и одной ночи" или "Рукописи, найденной в Сарагосе". Последняя лично мне куда больше нравится.

estanceveyrac's review against another edition

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5.0

Fichtrement formidable !
Un chef d'oeuvre inoubliable, auquel on revient inéluctablement.

blairmahoney's review against another edition

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4.0

Very entertaining, obviously influenced by Sterne, with a similarly proto-postmodern approach to storytelling.

sidharthvardhan's review against another edition

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4.0


So I'm sitting in my place when the door bell rings. I open the door to find a girl with chocolaty curly hair whom I never have seen before, she takes hold of my hand with both her hands imploring me to help her. Suddenly I'm a superhero and she is a damsel in distress, and so I ask her what is wrong? And she sighing and almost sobbing tells me...

"Tells you what?" You ask.

Why do you care? It is not a story, it is supposed to be a review of Jacques the fatalist.

“There is no book more innocent than a bad book”

Denis Diderot was a polymath. Philosophy, theatre, literature, science– he was involved in them all and his efforts during the enlightenment age earned praises from his contemporary Voltaire. He championed the cause of freedom of speech and that of Science, which wasn't much liked by church. Like Voltaire, he was an atheist. This might lead you to believe that he wrote this ‘chronicle’ to satirize the protagonist but the very opposite is the case.

Well, talking about fatalism, it reminds of a women ... no, not the women with chocolaty curly hair though if it was a novel, that would definitly have been the case, but this is real life. The woman I'm now talking about, a friend, told me how this one time she was sitting in a casino and losing constantly when this guy in a black suit comes in, 'very ugly to be honest but except for that very very charming' - as she put it. And now she was about to leave having nothing but bad luck that day but he somehow persuaded her to try again for number six and with all her money - and again and again, for three times and she won each time. Obviously happy, she was soon drinking with him asking him who he was and he told her ..

"And what did he say?" You ask again.

Again, always putting your nose in other people's business, aren't we? It is a review remember? Dont distract me.

The image that springs up in one’s mind when one thinks of a fatalist is of someone who won’t make an effort to improve his or her life or fight against his or her troubles but Jacques is not like that. He is very active, clever and always trying to enjoy his life. His fatalism is more of a belief in determinism – he believes there is no free-will, everything shall happen according to ‘what is written on high’, but it doesn’t stop him from trying, taking necessary caution against dangers, putting on resistance etc.

Diderot himself didn’t believe that there is a God who has written something but he believed that everything that happens springs from a cause and that cause itself has a cause and so on. And so there is no free-will. He wanted to tell us how even someone believing in such fatalism won't be too immoral or a defeatist.

But really I'm too excited to tell you about the story of that girl with chocolaty curly hair and so she tells me that she has a cockroach in the house and that I must ...

But you are laughing. What did you expect? Dragons? Though if it was a novel, it would definitely have been something more sinister - dragons, vampires,zombies, aliens, ghosts etc. As it is I was even scared of cockroaches too and so ....

"We would rather hear the end of casino girl story."You say.

But I want to tell this one.

"But we want to hear that one or we will leave." You say.

(Angrily) All right, I guess it is written on high. So the ugly guy is just about to tell her his story when he notices something wrong with his drink and tells her to wait a second as he leaves to complain about it.

Now you might have noticed above, I called it a chronicle instead of a .....

And now you are still pestering me to finish the story first.

But he has gone to complain, let him. Meanwhile let me finish with the review. Now you might have noticed.....

"But the story?"

Oh grow up! Now you might have...

"Please. I know that ugly charming man is devil. And 666 he wanted her to play and how he was sure she will win and..."

I will finish it in due time but we are here to review a novel.

You sit back, disappointed.

Now you might have noticed above, I called it a chronicle instead of a novel, and it is because our author keeps on reminding you of that. It involves references to a number of real people. And then Diderot, who doesn’t like novels as they have a number of convenient coincidences, keeps on interrupting the story to tell you how a novelist would have written it. There is a lot of meta-humor in there. And there are constant interruptions (from writer, reader - people like you, characters, fate etc.) and some unfinished stories – giving it a whole ‘If on a winter night’ feel. There is another similarity – the reader with his or her constant questions and demands that interrupt the story and annoy the author, seems to have some sort of personality of his own.

Okay finished, to get on with the story, where were we?

"He had gone to complain about his drink."

Yes I remember. And our lady is waiting in desperation, she no longer wants to leave without knowing about him. She is one of those curious souls who must hear end of everything ... like you.

You mutter under your breath 'now he is being sarcastic again'

Did you say something?

"Just that you are such a great story teller."

*flattered* Oh me thanks. So as I was saying she is waiting and finally he comes back and still angry tells her how these waiters are no good. From his very long lament, our lady learns that he is manager of casino... see not a devil, though if it was a novel..

"Ya, ya, then it could easily have been devil. Go on."


... and before long she guesses that he manipulated the game to make her win so that he could impress her and get her into bed. And she has lost her curiosity, she is no longer interested. She is about to leave... oh ! Wait I just remembered I must add something to review.

You just stare at me with furious eyes.

The central story itself is not much – it starts in middle and ends in middle. The book begins when Jacques and his Master are on a journey from some unrevealed starting point to some unrevealed destination. In the end, they still haven’t reached the destination – kind of like ‘Waiting for Godot’ except that instead of waiting they are walking. And like Aesop from one of Jacques' anecdotes and also like most of us living our life, they end up somewhere other than they planned.

With my references to ‘If on a Winter’s Night’ and ‘Waiting for Godot’, you can imagine how far ahead of its times the book was. It is also the funniest book I have read this year.

*furiously*"Are you done with your stupid review?"

Yes.

"Then finish the story"

The one about girl with chocolaty, curly hair?

*patiently* "No one about ugly charming manager"

Okay, so my friend was about to leave when this manager tells her something due to which they are still together to date and she is still head over heals in love with him. (*Mutters under his breath* 'and now I will have revenge for not being permitted to finish the chocolaty curly hair girl story.. oh! That girl')

"What did tou say?"

"Nothing."

*still suspicious* "Go on."

.... what he tells her is that how after his graduation, he ... but wait, I just remembered that she had told me this story in confidence, I can't give away her secret plus *quietly stands up and step backwards, towards the door* it might affect their marriage. You don't want that, do you? So I will have to take a leave. Bye.
*escapes*

mammadst's review against another edition

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adventurous funny reflective medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.0

eliathereader's review against another edition

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2.0

Nereye gidiyorlardı? İnsan nereye gittiğini bilir mi ki?
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Dünya Klasikleri Okuma Kulübünün Mayıs ayı kitabı Kaderci Jacques ve Efendisi’ydi. Daha öncesinde adını duymadığım için meraklandığım bir okumaydı. Farklı bir anlatıma sahip klasiklerden. Hem esprili bir dil kullanılmış hem de katmanlı bir yapıya sahip ve hikaye içerisinde hikaye bulunuyor. Diyaloglar kitapta bolca bulunuyor ve bu yandan Sokrates’e selam çakmakta. Aynı zamanda yazar da sık sık anlatıma müdahale olmakta özellikle bir kurgu metin okuttuğunu da sürekli olarak hatırlatıyor. Kitapta kısaca bir uşak ve efendisinin yolculuğu anlatılıyor. Uşak Jacques kaderci bir bakış açısına sahip alında ne yazıldıysa (burada elbette yazara da atıf yapılıyor ki yazar da ‘kader yazma’ konusunda Jacques üzerinden bolca duruyor) onun yaşanıldığı inancına sahip. Efendi bir yandan onun hikayelerini dinlerken bir yandan da kendi zaman dilimine odaklanmaya çalışıyor. Don Kişot ve Tristam Shandy’e de atıflar mevcut ki 1. kitabı çok severim, 2.’sini ne yazık ki henüz okumadım ama çok merak ettiklerimden. Kaderci Jacques ve Efendisi başlarda çok keyif aldığım bir kitaptı ama ilerledikçe açıkçası beğenim azaldı. Felsefi sorgulamalar yönünden önemli kabul edilen bir kitapmış bu yönden okuduğuma da sevindim. Ayrıca klasiklere kıyasla farklı bir tarza sahip olması da hoşuma gitti ama ne yazık ki büyük bir keyifle okuyamadım. Farklı metinlerden hoşlananların beğeneceğini düşünüyorum.

baharshahraki's review against another edition

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4.0

واقعا یکی از شاهکارهای ادبیات فرانسه ست. کتابی که سه تا راوی داره و هزاران داستان تو دل یه داستان روایت میشه.