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A review by pivic
Toni Morrison: The Last Interview: and Other Conversations by Toni Morrison, Nikki Giovanni
dark
emotional
funny
informative
inspiring
reflective
sad
fast-paced
4.0
Toni Morrison, one of the most well-known American post-war authors, reclines throughout this book. This is a collection that spans interviews from 1973 to 2018. Unfazed by most but poignant, sprightly, and funny, Morrison delivered most of her lines in a way that may seem lukewarm, but, intellectually speaking, is far beyond that. Remember, she was a person who was very close friends with [Fran Lebowitz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_Lebowitz), which means something.
> **JAFFREY**: Do you see a place for gay literature, Indian literature, black literature, black women’s literature—in a positive way?
> **MORRISON**: Oh, absolutely. It’s changing everything. They may take longer; the marketing shapes how we understand these books. Some Native American writers enjoy being called Native American writers. I had a student who was Native American and I told him, “You’re going to have trouble getting this book accepted, because there are no moccasins, there are no tomahawks.” And he did. He had enormous trouble. I mean, submissions, I don’t even want to repeat the number, but he finally did have this book published, and you know, it’s a first novel—it got excellent reviews—but the point was that the rejections, I know, were based on the inability to think of Native Americans, in this particular case, as Americans.
At eighty-seven years old:
> **ELKANN**: Why do you write?
> **MORRISON**: I’m very good at it. That’s one of the reasons. I know how. I always knew how. The problem was that other people didn’t think so.
Morrison was clearly a very sharp speaker, keeping fun in one hand behind her back, ready to spring that shit on her audience.
> **ELKANN**: Do you still write?
> **MORRISON**: “Oh yes,” she said. [Laughs]
> **ELKANN**: Did the Nobel Prize change your life?
> **MORRISON**: No. They gave me some money, which I spent. It made a lot of people mad. They wrote very—not insulting, but close to insulting, articles that were really hurtful. What’d they give it to her for? [Laughs]
Morrison speaks with experience and pathos (for white people) on the topic of race. She speaks of both teaching youths and editing masterful writers in the same breath; she kept all people on the same level. A very human writer.
Even though these interviews aren't as long as, for example, [the one Morrison produced in The Paris Review in 1993](https://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/1888/the-art-of-fiction-no-134-toni-morrison), they're still insightful and provide a quick glance into her brilliant mind.
> **JAFFREY**: Do you see a place for gay literature, Indian literature, black literature, black women’s literature—in a positive way?
> **MORRISON**: Oh, absolutely. It’s changing everything. They may take longer; the marketing shapes how we understand these books. Some Native American writers enjoy being called Native American writers. I had a student who was Native American and I told him, “You’re going to have trouble getting this book accepted, because there are no moccasins, there are no tomahawks.” And he did. He had enormous trouble. I mean, submissions, I don’t even want to repeat the number, but he finally did have this book published, and you know, it’s a first novel—it got excellent reviews—but the point was that the rejections, I know, were based on the inability to think of Native Americans, in this particular case, as Americans.
At eighty-seven years old:
> **ELKANN**: Why do you write?
> **MORRISON**: I’m very good at it. That’s one of the reasons. I know how. I always knew how. The problem was that other people didn’t think so.
Morrison was clearly a very sharp speaker, keeping fun in one hand behind her back, ready to spring that shit on her audience.
> **ELKANN**: Do you still write?
> **MORRISON**: “Oh yes,” she said. [Laughs]
> **ELKANN**: Did the Nobel Prize change your life?
> **MORRISON**: No. They gave me some money, which I spent. It made a lot of people mad. They wrote very—not insulting, but close to insulting, articles that were really hurtful. What’d they give it to her for? [Laughs]
Morrison speaks with experience and pathos (for white people) on the topic of race. She speaks of both teaching youths and editing masterful writers in the same breath; she kept all people on the same level. A very human writer.
Even though these interviews aren't as long as, for example, [the one Morrison produced in The Paris Review in 1993](https://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/1888/the-art-of-fiction-no-134-toni-morrison), they're still insightful and provide a quick glance into her brilliant mind.