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4lbxrtoii's review against another edition
2.0
"A constitution may be either good or bad, depending on whether it leads to the common good or not."
"The power of the people depends upon the constitution."
While it offers valuable historical insight into the workings of ancient Athens, I found the reading experience to be less engaging than I had hoped. The text is actually believed to be a compilation of Aristotle’s notes—or perhaps the notes of one of his students—rather than a fully cohesive work written by Aristotle himself. And I can definitely tell! The style is a bit disjointed and, at times, feels more like a lecture outline than a polished philosophical treatise.
Aristotle’s analysis of different forms of government and his exploration of Athenian democracy is undoubtedly significant, but the text often felt dry and repetitive. His abstract philosophical musings, while intellectually stimulating at times, didn't always provide the depth I was hoping for in terms of practical application or clarity.
One of the challenges I faced while reading this work was the dense, sometimes technical language that left me struggling to connect with the content. While I appreciate Aristotle's attempt to systematically categorize the political structures and dynamics of Athens, it felt like the book could have benefitted from more detailed examples and a more accessible writing style.
That being said, I do agree with Aristotle’s point that the constitution is a tool for the people to exert power. A constitution should be amended and changed whenever it no longer serves the people—not the other way around, especially when it comes to the common people, the working class, and not the 1%. This was actually something I had to put into practice recently when I helped write a club constitution at university. We were trying to restrict the power of one individual who was abusing his junior executives—essentially making them do all his work for him while he took credit for all the club’s events. It felt like we were putting in safeguards to ensure the constitution served the people (in this case, the junior execs) and not just one person trying to control everything.
For those with a deep interest in political theory or ancient Greek philosophy, The Athenian Constitution might still hold value, but for a more casual reader or someone seeking a more compelling and readable exploration of Athenian politics, this text may feel more like a historical document than an engaging philosophical treatise. Unfortunately, this one didn't resonate with me as much as I hoped.
"The power of the people depends upon the constitution."
While it offers valuable historical insight into the workings of ancient Athens, I found the reading experience to be less engaging than I had hoped. The text is actually believed to be a compilation of Aristotle’s notes—or perhaps the notes of one of his students—rather than a fully cohesive work written by Aristotle himself. And I can definitely tell! The style is a bit disjointed and, at times, feels more like a lecture outline than a polished philosophical treatise.
Aristotle’s analysis of different forms of government and his exploration of Athenian democracy is undoubtedly significant, but the text often felt dry and repetitive. His abstract philosophical musings, while intellectually stimulating at times, didn't always provide the depth I was hoping for in terms of practical application or clarity.
One of the challenges I faced while reading this work was the dense, sometimes technical language that left me struggling to connect with the content. While I appreciate Aristotle's attempt to systematically categorize the political structures and dynamics of Athens, it felt like the book could have benefitted from more detailed examples and a more accessible writing style.
That being said, I do agree with Aristotle’s point that the constitution is a tool for the people to exert power. A constitution should be amended and changed whenever it no longer serves the people—not the other way around, especially when it comes to the common people, the working class, and not the 1%. This was actually something I had to put into practice recently when I helped write a club constitution at university. We were trying to restrict the power of one individual who was abusing his junior executives—essentially making them do all his work for him while he took credit for all the club’s events. It felt like we were putting in safeguards to ensure the constitution served the people (in this case, the junior execs) and not just one person trying to control everything.
For those with a deep interest in political theory or ancient Greek philosophy, The Athenian Constitution might still hold value, but for a more casual reader or someone seeking a more compelling and readable exploration of Athenian politics, this text may feel more like a historical document than an engaging philosophical treatise. Unfortunately, this one didn't resonate with me as much as I hoped.
jcampbell's review against another edition
informative
3.0
Hard to rate but an interesting look at Athens and its democratic history
thomrid's review against another edition
Finished this a while back but stopped using this app. Really interesting insight to the first great democracy
marialianou's review against another edition
4.0
Αλλά πραγματικά; Μπορούμε να βαθμολογήσουμε την Αρχαία Ελληνική Γραμματεία;
notwellread's review against another edition
3.0
I have found it interesting to be reading this in a time of such political turmoil (though not exactly a relief from all the stress). There were particular moments that resonated due to this (Solon trying and failing to please the poor by helping them without major social upheaval; refusing tyranny, yet later being ignored when he warns that Pisistratus wants to be a tyrant), but it also functions as a generally useful account of early political developments. Some parts were more of a surprise as well (Pisistratus’ purported public policy and generosity during his reign).
I would say (for public information!) that labelling this as ‘by Aristotle’ is a marketing ploy – luckily I already knew this and so was not disappointed, but the text is ‘attributed to Aristotle’ (and generally Aristotelian in style) but differs from the [b:Politics|19083|Politics|Aristotle|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1391135988s/19083.jpg|14746717] quite a bit and was probably written by one of A’s students.
Solon is the most intriguing figure to me (though this was also the part I had read and studied before), along with Cleisthenes; it was also enlightening to see how the whole timeline looked leading down to the 5th century-style democracy we associate most closely with Athens, even where some of the details are questionable (for which, thankfully, the Penguin notes provide plenty of help).
The text is dry and slow at times (this is to be expected, especially in the descriptions of government organisations towards the end!) but it’s certainly educationally valuable, which I think is what I needed right now (and probably one that a lot of politicians should be reading up on in these present circumstances).
I would say (for public information!) that labelling this as ‘by Aristotle’ is a marketing ploy – luckily I already knew this and so was not disappointed, but the text is ‘attributed to Aristotle’ (and generally Aristotelian in style) but differs from the [b:Politics|19083|Politics|Aristotle|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1391135988s/19083.jpg|14746717] quite a bit and was probably written by one of A’s students.
Solon is the most intriguing figure to me (though this was also the part I had read and studied before), along with Cleisthenes; it was also enlightening to see how the whole timeline looked leading down to the 5th century-style democracy we associate most closely with Athens, even where some of the details are questionable (for which, thankfully, the Penguin notes provide plenty of help).
The text is dry and slow at times (this is to be expected, especially in the descriptions of government organisations towards the end!) but it’s certainly educationally valuable, which I think is what I needed right now (and probably one that a lot of politicians should be reading up on in these present circumstances).