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crybabybea's review against another edition
4.75
This book made me physically ill. Sickening, but necessary.
Nick Turse doesn't hold back when detailing the horrendous war crimes committed by US soldiers during the Vietnam war. Although most people with a cursory understanding of the war will know of the My Lai massacre, Turse makes the argument that the atrocities of My Lai were only one example out of many.
Turse highlights the systemic abuse of power shown by the US army, especially of those commanding officers which passed their horrific policies down to their (extremely young) subordinates. He fully blows away the common belief that the military is full of a few "bad apples", and that reckless violence committed during war can be excused as "kill or be killed", instead making an extremely persuasive argument that the US military itself, built on imperialism, colonialism, dehumanization, and racism is rotten to the core.
You can bet your ass that the systemic violence, racism, misogyny, classism, etc. plays a part in every US conflict to date. It's very clear that the issues laid out in this book are the modus operandi of the US military, not just a "mistake" or an "accident". It's easy to see parallels to the conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the genocide in Palestine involving IDF soldiers trained directly by the US, and even as far back as the Long Walk.
Of course, the book lacks context about the war at large; why was the US involved, which events led up to massacres like My Lai, how was public reaction to certain policies, what was the president doing? But, that's not the goal of this book. Instead, Turse forces the reader to ask themselves, no matter the context, no matter the reasoning, can the careless disregard for life ever be justified?
What we're left with is yet another entry in the long, long list of atrocities committed by the United States that continue to be whitewashed and swept under the rug, that the United States refuses to address or remedy.
Nick Turse doesn't hold back when detailing the horrendous war crimes committed by US soldiers during the Vietnam war. Although most people with a cursory understanding of the war will know of the My Lai massacre, Turse makes the argument that the atrocities of My Lai were only one example out of many.
Turse highlights the systemic abuse of power shown by the US army, especially of those commanding officers which passed their horrific policies down to their (extremely young) subordinates. He fully blows away the common belief that the military is full of a few "bad apples", and that reckless violence committed during war can be excused as "kill or be killed", instead making an extremely persuasive argument that the US military itself, built on imperialism, colonialism, dehumanization, and racism is rotten to the core.
You can bet your ass that the systemic violence, racism, misogyny, classism, etc. plays a part in every US conflict to date. It's very clear that the issues laid out in this book are the modus operandi of the US military, not just a "mistake" or an "accident". It's easy to see parallels to the conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the genocide in Palestine involving IDF soldiers trained directly by the US, and even as far back as the Long Walk.
Of course, the book lacks context about the war at large; why was the US involved, which events led up to massacres like My Lai, how was public reaction to certain policies, what was the president doing? But, that's not the goal of this book. Instead, Turse forces the reader to ask themselves, no matter the context, no matter the reasoning, can the careless disregard for life ever be justified?
What we're left with is yet another entry in the long, long list of atrocities committed by the United States that continue to be whitewashed and swept under the rug, that the United States refuses to address or remedy.
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Death, Genocide, Gore, Gun violence, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Torture, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Vomit, Police brutality, Trafficking, Mass/school shootings, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Sexual harassment, Colonisation, War, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Suicide
Everything listed here is EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. Like beyond graphic. Please be careful.herbal_myrtle's review against another edition
4.0
Wow this is a very informative book and a tough read at times. My pen was very busy! Wish it told more of north vietnams stories as well, as I’d like to learn about that experience
alernatives's review against another edition
4.0
This made me very angry. There are many things I hate about America and this seemed to highlight almost all of them. We really just do whatever we want and get away with it huh? No respect for non-westerners, ever.
Only one real complaint about this book: organization is messy and sometimes hard to follow. Also found the author’s constant usage of “for example” and “for instance” annoying.
Only one real complaint about this book: organization is messy and sometimes hard to follow. Also found the author’s constant usage of “for example” and “for instance” annoying.
buceethevampireslayer's review against another edition
5.0
i like to imagine kissinger in hell getting set on fire then pissed out every hour for eternity
mlrio's review against another edition
2.0
The best way I can think to describe this book is "unbalanced." Turse's project is obvious from the get-go, which isn't a bad thing, but his argument isn't particularly strong and sometimes fades into the background so it feels like he's just describing atrocity for the sake of the shock value. (Moreover, I don't think anyone who has a working knowledge of the Vietnam War is going to be all that shocked by any of what he's reporting.) The bigger problem is his failure to engage or even acknowledge counterarguments. On a slightly pettier note, his prose isn't doing him any favors. It verges on purple in a lot of places and he can't seem to resist the urge to add an ominous coda along the lines of "There were more horrors to come" at the end of every section, which does the opposite of what it's supposed to by undermining the impact of whatever went before it. It reads more like propaganda than good journalism, which is ironic considering his argument that that was how the establishment typically discredited veterans' accounts of atrocity throughout the war. He's clearly done a lot of research and tried to draw attention to some things which have been, yes, disgracefully disregarded, but that's not quite enough to make a persuasive book.