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mme_carton's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Death, Grief, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Alcohol, and Classism
kelly04's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Suicide
Moderate: Chronic illness and Classism
Minor: Death of parent and Injury/Injury detail
milesjmoran's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Child death, Death, Sexism, Suicide, Terminal illness, Grief, Death of parent, and Classism
Moderate: Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Xenophobia, and Alcohol
tt222's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Moderate: Suicide, Terminal illness, and Classism
Minor: Alcoholism and Violence
mmefish's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I loved the meditations on religion, class and morals, the picturesque descriptions of the North and the South, and how real every single character felt. I only wish we had gotten more romantic moments and a less abrupt ending (E. Gaskell had to rush the last chapters).
I'm going to include my favourite passages but mark some of them as spoilers if they are lengthy.
'You must grant me this one point. Given a strong feeling of independence in every Darkshire man, have I any right to obtrude my views, of the manner in which he shall act, upon another (hating it as I should do most vehemently myself), merely because he has labour to sell and I capital to buy?'
'Not in the least. Not in the least because of your labour and capital positions, whatever whatever they are, but because you are a man, dealing with a set of men over whom you have, whether you reject the use of it or not, immense power, just because your lives and your welfare are so constantly and intimately interwoven. God has made us so that we must be mutually dependent.'
'But what win ye have? There are days wi' you, as wi' other folk, I suppose, when yo' get up and go through th' hours, just longing for a bit of a change—a bit of a fillip, as it were. I know I ha' gone and bought a four-pounder out o' another baker's shop to common on such days, just because I sickened at the thought of going on for ever wi' the same sight in my eyes, and the same sound in my ears, and the same taste i' my mouth, and the same thought (or no thought, for that matter) in my head, day after day, for ever. I've longed for to be a man to go spreeing, even it were only a tramp to some new place in search o' work. And father—all men—have it stronger in 'em than me to get tired o' sameness and work for ever. And what is 'em to do? It's little blame to them if they do go into th' gin-shop for to make their blood flow quicker, and more lively, and see things they never see at no other time—pictures, and looking-glass, and such like. But father never was a drunkard, though maybe, he's got worse for drink, now and then. Only yo' see, at times o' strike there's much to knock a man down, for all they start so hopefully; and where's the comfort to come fro'? He'll get angry and mad—they all do—and then they get tired out wi' being angry and mad, and maybe ha' done things in their passion they'd be glad to forget. Bless yo'r sweet pitiful face! but yo' dunnot know what a strike is yet.'
"A bad-looking fellow, I can assure you, miss. Whiskers such as I should be ashamed to wear – they are so red."
My favourite:
...all the time it would have been a relief to believe her utterly unworthy of his esteem. It was this that made the misery—that he passionately loved her, and thought her, even with all her faults, more lovely and more excellent than any other woman; yet he deemed her so attached to some other man, so led away by her affection for him as to violate her truthful nature. The very falsehood that stained her, was a proof how blindly she loved another—this dark, slight, elegant, handsome man—while he himself was rough, and stern, and strongly made. He lashed himself into an agony of fierce jealousy. He thought of that look, that attitude!—how he would have laid his life at her feet for such tender glances, such fond detention! He mocked at himself, for having valued the mechanical way in which she had protected him from the fury of the mob; now he had seen how soft and bewitching she looked when with a man she really loved. He remembered, point by point, the sharpness of her words—'There was not a man in all that crowd for whom she would not have done as much, far more readily than for him.' He shared with the mob, in her desire of averting bloodshed from them; but this man, this hidden lover, shared with nobody; he had looks, words, hand-cleavings, lies, concealment, all to himself
'It is the first changes among familiar things that make such a mystery of time to the young, afterwards we lose the sense of the mysterious. I take changes in all I see as a matter of course. The instability of all human things is familiar to me, to you it is new and oppressive.'
'After all it is right. If the world stood still, it would retrograde and become corrupt, if that is not Irish. Looking out of myself, and my own painful sense of change, the progress all around me is right and necessary. I must not think so much of how circumstances affect me myself, but how they affect others, if I wish to have a right judgment, or a hopeful trustful heart.'
🥲
He knelt by her side, to bring his face to a level with her ear; and whispered-panted out the words:
— 'Take care.—If you do not speak—I shall claim you as my own in some strange presumptuous way.—Send me away at once, if I must go;—Margaret!—
Graphic: Child death, Death, Suicide, Terminal illness, Grief, Death of parent, and Classism
Moderate: Animal cruelty and Xenophobia
Minor: Alcoholism, Animal death, and Violence
katewhite77's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
A simply wonderful book, narated brilliantly by Juliet Stevenson. I would say that this sits at the mid point between Austin and Dickens. Not as bleak as Dickens but not as light and fluffy as Austin.
It has absolutely everything Comedy, Tragedy, Industrial Unrest Classism and Romace. Oh the romance and kindness. All written with such lightness of touch.
I never put my self down as someone who could be blown away by a Victorian novel as much as a contemporary one but I now have.
Please anyone who carers about the world both then and now reaad or listen to masterpiece.
Moderate: Death, Sexism, Suicide, Terminal illness, Death of parent, Pregnancy, and Classism
naomi_k's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Moderate: Chronic illness, Death, Sexism, Grief, Death of parent, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Minor: Suicide, Xenophobia, and Religious bigotry
genevieve5's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Overall, I adored this book. Gaskell is a master of her craft, and her novel makes many important and valuable points about how the relationship between industrial heads and their workers were flawed and complex, and highlights the idea of disconnection between the two groups and a lack of understanding of each other's points of view as one of the main roots of these problems. In this way, she is more skilled than Charles Dickens at pointing out the immorality of the social order. The character of Margaret Hale grew on me and kept me engaged to see how she would develop, and it weaves in moments of subtle feminism throughout.
One thing it is important to remember about this book is that it's a product of its time, and thus I only agree with some, not all, of its politics. Additionally, some of the phrasing, particularly describing the actions and words of John Thornton, could have been better. For example, at one point, he compares his reaction to seeing Margaret upset at one point to the stinging pleasure a mother feels when she is able to comfort an infant. I think I understood what Gaskell was talking about, but the phrasing there made me slightly uncomfortable.
As for John Thornton himself, I can safely say that I vehemently hated him at the beginning of the book; straight up, he was a very cruel mill owner. Ultimately, he did have a very strong growth arc throughout the book, and became a MUCH better and much more likable person by changing his mindset, practices, and behaviors (I could have gone for a bit more groveling on Thornton's part, though).
The ending was good, but felt very rushed and not wholly satisfying, which Gaskell makes an apologetic note about at the beginning of the book, so I accepted that.
Overall, an impactful and thought-provoking read with strong characters, important social messages, a breath-taking romance, and a plot that keeps you hooked from beginning to end. Well done, Miss Gaskell! Would recommend.
Graphic: Classism
Moderate: Death, Grief, and Death of parent
Minor: Violence
columnclub's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
3.5
Graphic: Death, Suicide, Medical content, Grief, Death of parent, and Classism
Moderate: Animal death, Misogyny, Terminal illness, Medical trauma, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Child death, Panic attacks/disorders, Religious bigotry, Pregnancy, and Toxic friendship
elenavillan's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Terminal illness, Grief, Death of parent, and Classism
Moderate: Suicide
Minor: Alcoholism and Animal cruelty