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dheberer's review against another edition
5.0
I've read several books criticizing the excesses of the left but this one is the first that comes from a liberal position. Usually the author can not disguise their open "conservative" views even though they announce themselves as a centrist. These authors openly call themselves liberals and give detailed reasons of how we have found ourselves dealing with so much identity politics and why it hurts discourse. I listened to this in audiobook form, and I'm looking for the physical book so I can check some of the references and continue to read more about the thinking presented here.
In some places it dragged a bit with historical background and setup, but for the most part I was very engaged with this thoughtful argument. And I feel like the lengthy setup actually does pay off in the end as it ties together.
In some places it dragged a bit with historical background and setup, but for the most part I was very engaged with this thoughtful argument. And I feel like the lengthy setup actually does pay off in the end as it ties together.
lischa3000's review against another edition
informative
inspiring
reflective
slow-paced
5.0
This was a very important and profound read for me. It made me think differently about some of my earlier reads, and how these books have unpurposefully or otherwise lead some people down a path of intolerance, victimhood and destruction of language, to the point of creating social, political and legal rights implications for the groups these "activists" pretend to be serving.
Protecting liberal and secular values against unscientific, politically correct, "Social Justice Theories" is of vital importance, in order to safeguard the actual social justice progress we have made and can make in the future.
Only down side to the book is that it's not very approachable. The need to "be academic" to showcase evidence for the shallow intellectual origin of this new Social Justice movement is understandable. Nonetheless, it's not conducive to attracting a larger audience, who would benefit from the knowledge.
Protecting liberal and secular values against unscientific, politically correct, "Social Justice Theories" is of vital importance, in order to safeguard the actual social justice progress we have made and can make in the future.
Only down side to the book is that it's not very approachable. The need to "be academic" to showcase evidence for the shallow intellectual origin of this new Social Justice movement is understandable. Nonetheless, it's not conducive to attracting a larger audience, who would benefit from the knowledge.
typish's review against another edition
3.0
On the good side, I have formed a more systematic point of view on Theory by reading the book, which helped in framing the whole story.
On the improvable side, I would have preferred more actual data on prevalence on these views in academia (and activism) and on how nuanced they get (the takeaway from reading the chapters seems to be "90% academics in these disciplines are extreme Theorists"", which seems improbable).
I'm also not sure many of the quotations cited in the book are as damning as they are thought to be (with the notable exception of the later chapters, especially from the "educators").
It also feels like the celebration of liberalism (which I agree with) is too handwavy, especially coming from someone who is complaining about the theoretical incoherence of Theory: flaws are recognized, yes, but the topic is far from explored with a remotely comparable depth.
Finally, I would have greatly appreciated a more critical discussion of Foucault and Deridda in the initial chapters: ideas, yes, but also what was good, what was bad, and why.
On the improvable side, I would have preferred more actual data on prevalence on these views in academia (and activism) and on how nuanced they get (the takeaway from reading the chapters seems to be "90% academics in these disciplines are extreme Theorists"", which seems improbable).
I'm also not sure many of the quotations cited in the book are as damning as they are thought to be (with the notable exception of the later chapters, especially from the "educators").
It also feels like the celebration of liberalism (which I agree with) is too handwavy, especially coming from someone who is complaining about the theoretical incoherence of Theory: flaws are recognized, yes, but the topic is far from explored with a remotely comparable depth.
Finally, I would have greatly appreciated a more critical discussion of Foucault and Deridda in the initial chapters: ideas, yes, but also what was good, what was bad, and why.
quenchgum's review against another edition
5.0
Disagreed with most conclusions but still found it fascinating. FWIW this does not accurately represent anything close to mainstream leftist thought. If it did then I would agree with its conclusions. Still was a ton of fun as a thought exercise, though.
Would recommend this book for:
• people that avidly care about social justice (myself included) that want to be aware of the ways their tactics could sometimes hinder progress
• lefty friends that are looking for a more neutral explanation for some republican stuff that otherwise just seems hateful
• readers of all works of “theory” (whether queer theory, critical race theory, gender studies, disability studies, etc.), as this book is 100% about analyzing the perspectives behind these theories
• fans or haters of foucault, derrida, judith butler, kimberlie crenshaw, bell hooks, audre lorde, etc
Would recommend this book for:
• people that avidly care about social justice (myself included) that want to be aware of the ways their tactics could sometimes hinder progress
• lefty friends that are looking for a more neutral explanation for some republican stuff that otherwise just seems hateful
• readers of all works of “theory” (whether queer theory, critical race theory, gender studies, disability studies, etc.), as this book is 100% about analyzing the perspectives behind these theories
• fans or haters of foucault, derrida, judith butler, kimberlie crenshaw, bell hooks, audre lorde, etc
res_curans's review against another edition
4.0
The subject of Cynical Theories is the Social Justice movement based on “theory” — critical race theory, queer theory, and others. The authors analyze the central claims and beliefs behind “theory”, identifying numerous internal inconsistencies and showing how it collapses under analysis. Furthermore, they argue that in practice, “social justice” actually works against its purported goals; it deepens the divides that it is, or should be, seeking to heal. Finally, the authors claim that “theory” threatens to erode Western/classical liberalism altogether, which is dangerous for two main reasons: (1) the erosion of liberalism usually occurs with the rise of authoritarianism, which has had disastrous historical results across the board, and (2) classical liberalism is actually far more likely to achieve social justice goals.
On my reading, the argument is sound and well-researched. Postmodernism is a tough movement to pin down, partly by design, but I think the authors do a good job characterizing the main strains that critical theory has picked up on. The original themes of postmodernism (if they can even be rightly called “themes”) have mutated with the over time. So even though it might seem problematic to reduce authors like Foucault and Derrida to a set of axioms, the authors are really trying to identify how those authors show up in the present moment. It’s not a critique of the original postmodernists, per se, but of postmodernism as it shows up in the current movement. In that light, I think the book does a good job. The negative arguments are potentially devastating for critical theory.
Although it’s obvious from some of the language that the authors have strong emotions about these issues, the overall tone and approach seems even-handed. The target audience for this book will probably already have the sense that the claims of Theory — e.g., all white people are racist, denial of gender identity is tantamount to murder, etc. — are patently absurd. But the critiques help connect the social justice movement to the postmodern ideas from which it derives, and are all the more articulate and devastating for it. On the positive side, the authors try to demonstrate classical liberalism to be a better alternative. In this area, I think they’re successful as well, though with some qualification.
My major objection was that, while the authors assert that they support LGBT rights, their critique of queer theory and their affirmation of biological science goes right to the very heart of the movement — especially that fourth letter. The authors affirm that sex categories are rooted in biology, that they are relevant and necessary, and that statistically significant differences exist between the sexes. The trans movement flatly denies of all these — so how can the authors affirm both at once? Research can describe the sexual variations that may exist among individuals, but it does not, cannot, account for the outrageous claims of trans activists, which the authors themselves criticize. This seemed to me an outright contradiction, a case of the authors having their cake and eating it too.
Other than that, I mainly had a beef with the way the authors handle some of their own assumptions. For example, they frequently champion the correspondence theory of knowledge, and science as the determiner of objective truth, concepts with which many recent philosophers have taken issue (and not without good reason). They seem to lump empirical/scientific investigation and research into a general approach to ethics, which is also highly problematic. And as often as they reject the characterization of liberalism as metanarrative, claiming instead that liberalism is more like a process, they also fall back on metanarrative claims to things like common humanity, equal rights, etc. It’s not really a problem to have a metanarrative, since critical theory itself imposes a metanarrative of oppression onto everything (despite claiming to reject all metanarratives). But it seems like the authors are again having their cake and eating it too. Anyway, these are philosophical nit picks; I think that on a basic level, and certainly for the average reader, the arguments are successful in pointing out the flaws in critical theory and arguing for liberalism as the better way.
It’s a sad truth, though — and the authors point this out, of course — that critical theory is inherently hostile to criticism and debate. Its adherents are suspicious of logic/reason, use of evidence, and other rigorous practices as merely systems of power designed to maintain the status quo. They label disagreement as hate speech, evidence of prejudice, white fragility, etc., taking it as further confirmation of their own theory — the same circular logic used by religious cults. I’ve seen negative reviews of this book repeat the same fallacies — circular reasoning, ad hominem attack, and bulverism — in their dismissals. So despite the strength of the arguments and how potentially helpful they could be, even if they were proven wrong, there is a faction of people out there who simply won’t hear it on principle. What’s worse, the media seems all too willing to follow along. A sad state of affairs indeed.
If nothing else, read this book because they don’t want you to — who knows, it may be banned soon.
On my reading, the argument is sound and well-researched. Postmodernism is a tough movement to pin down, partly by design, but I think the authors do a good job characterizing the main strains that critical theory has picked up on. The original themes of postmodernism (if they can even be rightly called “themes”) have mutated with the over time. So even though it might seem problematic to reduce authors like Foucault and Derrida to a set of axioms, the authors are really trying to identify how those authors show up in the present moment. It’s not a critique of the original postmodernists, per se, but of postmodernism as it shows up in the current movement. In that light, I think the book does a good job. The negative arguments are potentially devastating for critical theory.
Although it’s obvious from some of the language that the authors have strong emotions about these issues, the overall tone and approach seems even-handed. The target audience for this book will probably already have the sense that the claims of Theory — e.g., all white people are racist, denial of gender identity is tantamount to murder, etc. — are patently absurd. But the critiques help connect the social justice movement to the postmodern ideas from which it derives, and are all the more articulate and devastating for it. On the positive side, the authors try to demonstrate classical liberalism to be a better alternative. In this area, I think they’re successful as well, though with some qualification.
My major objection was that, while the authors assert that they support LGBT rights, their critique of queer theory and their affirmation of biological science goes right to the very heart of the movement — especially that fourth letter. The authors affirm that sex categories are rooted in biology, that they are relevant and necessary, and that statistically significant differences exist between the sexes. The trans movement flatly denies of all these — so how can the authors affirm both at once? Research can describe the sexual variations that may exist among individuals, but it does not, cannot, account for the outrageous claims of trans activists, which the authors themselves criticize. This seemed to me an outright contradiction, a case of the authors having their cake and eating it too.
Other than that, I mainly had a beef with the way the authors handle some of their own assumptions. For example, they frequently champion the correspondence theory of knowledge, and science as the determiner of objective truth, concepts with which many recent philosophers have taken issue (and not without good reason). They seem to lump empirical/scientific investigation and research into a general approach to ethics, which is also highly problematic. And as often as they reject the characterization of liberalism as metanarrative, claiming instead that liberalism is more like a process, they also fall back on metanarrative claims to things like common humanity, equal rights, etc. It’s not really a problem to have a metanarrative, since critical theory itself imposes a metanarrative of oppression onto everything (despite claiming to reject all metanarratives). But it seems like the authors are again having their cake and eating it too. Anyway, these are philosophical nit picks; I think that on a basic level, and certainly for the average reader, the arguments are successful in pointing out the flaws in critical theory and arguing for liberalism as the better way.
It’s a sad truth, though — and the authors point this out, of course — that critical theory is inherently hostile to criticism and debate. Its adherents are suspicious of logic/reason, use of evidence, and other rigorous practices as merely systems of power designed to maintain the status quo. They label disagreement as hate speech, evidence of prejudice, white fragility, etc., taking it as further confirmation of their own theory — the same circular logic used by religious cults. I’ve seen negative reviews of this book repeat the same fallacies — circular reasoning, ad hominem attack, and bulverism — in their dismissals. So despite the strength of the arguments and how potentially helpful they could be, even if they were proven wrong, there is a faction of people out there who simply won’t hear it on principle. What’s worse, the media seems all too willing to follow along. A sad state of affairs indeed.
If nothing else, read this book because they don’t want you to — who knows, it may be banned soon.
haraldg's review against another edition
5.0
Traces the emergence of radical left postmodern ideology the past 50 years, and explains how this ideology hurts the social justice cause the activists are supposed to help.
— "Critical race Theory’s hallmark paranoid mind-set, which assumes racism is everywhere, always, just waiting to be found, is extremely unlikely to be helpful or healthy for those who adopt it. Always believing that one will be or is being discriminated against, and trying to find out how, is unlikely to improve the outcome of any situation."
I read this after Sir Roger Scruton's [b:Fools, Frauds and Firebrands: Thinkers of the New Left|23848019|Fools, Frauds and Firebrands Thinkers of the New Left|Roger Scruton|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1450180264l/23848019._SY75_.jpg|3355074], which traces development of far left political thought in the West during the 20th century. Cynical theories starts where Fools, Frauds and Firebrands ends, by postmodernism's transformation into social justice, CRT and intersectionality.
— "Critical race Theory’s hallmark paranoid mind-set, which assumes racism is everywhere, always, just waiting to be found, is extremely unlikely to be helpful or healthy for those who adopt it. Always believing that one will be or is being discriminated against, and trying to find out how, is unlikely to improve the outcome of any situation."
I read this after Sir Roger Scruton's [b:Fools, Frauds and Firebrands: Thinkers of the New Left|23848019|Fools, Frauds and Firebrands Thinkers of the New Left|Roger Scruton|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1450180264l/23848019._SY75_.jpg|3355074], which traces development of far left political thought in the West during the 20th century. Cynical theories starts where Fools, Frauds and Firebrands ends, by postmodernism's transformation into social justice, CRT and intersectionality.
youngthespian42's review against another edition
3.0
This book is a great introduction and history course in what has been happening in the field of cultural studies the last three decades or so. I don’t agree with the conclusions that this book makes, I do think the theories some of these movies do harm and need to be countered in “the market place of ideas.” The “liberals” these authors claim to be are more classical liberal (Dave Rubin style), but if you ignore their hatred of Marxism the analysis is still good.
matissrv's review against another edition
4.0
Kvalitatīvs lasāmais par to, kā interesantas akadēmiskas teorijas pārtapušas par drīzāk kaitējošu, nekā sabiedrību uzlabojošu aktīvismu. Jo īpaši noderīgas bija nodaļas, kas sniedz kopsavilkumu par šīm kritiskajām/ciniskajām teorijās un kritizē tās, lai gan kritikas daļa vietām prasījās plašākā, dziļāka, ar vairāk iespējamo pretargumentu atspēkošanu, kamēr atkārtošanās par to, kas ir postmodernisms un tā pamatuzskati, varēja būt mazāk. Kā norādīts citos vērtējumos par šo grāmatu, vietām postmodernisms šķiet tiešām aprakstīts pārāk vienkāršoti (par no tā izrietošajām teorijām man grūtāk spriest, jo par tām zinu krietni mazāk), tāpēc argumentēt pret to autoriem ir bijis vieglāk. Tai pat laikā secinājumi pret "ciniskajām" teorijām un klasiskāka liberālisma piedāvātā alternatīva liekas jēdzīgi.